[MozeR]

Constellation program funding cut off.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,2770904.story

After the space shuttle program shuts down, there will be no more space exploration for probably another decade. But hey, there's no doubt that money can be better spent in more important places.

Good thing I switched out of the Aerospace Engineering major ... lol.

[TheReUp]

I don't really think it's sad. Nothing really worthwhile comes out of humans physically being in space, as far as i know??

[CRiTiCAL]

As much as I love the idea of going to Mars or to the deepest parts of space, NASA is a failure. If all these brilliant scientists weren't working for the monopolistic NASA, imagine the discoveries in energy, science and technology that would be possible. Not to forget the financial burden and the other capital that would be freed up and put to its most productive uses in the free market.

[TheReUp]

you know that the free market isn't the answer to everything right?


gov subsidies to private companies doesn't equal free market.

[MozeR]

Originally Posted by CRiTiCAL

As much as I love the idea of going to Mars or to the deepest parts of space, NASA is a failure. If all these brilliant scientists weren't working for the monopolistic NASA, imagine the discoveries in energy, science and technology that would be possible. Not to forget the financial burden and the other capital that would be freed up and put to its most productive uses in the free market.

Lol. It is a market. NASA gets all their stuff via aerospace industry contracts. One entity designing every aspect of a space flight program is just impossibly stupid. In the case of the Ares rockets, Alliant Techsystems is developing the rocket boosters, Rocketdyne is developing the main engine, with Boeing developing the upper stage and avionics. Surely you can't expect one company to design and coordinate every step of the process.

[CRiTiCAL]

Originally Posted by TheReUp

you know that the free market isn't the answer to everything right?


gov subsidies to private companies doesn't equal free market.

What are you trying to answer? Who's talking about subsidies? I don't know where you're getting this stuff.

Originally Posted by MozeR

Lol. It is a market. NASA gets all their stuff via aerospace industry contracts. One entity designing every aspect of a space flight program is just impossibly stupid. In the case of the Ares rockets, Alliant Techsystems is developing the rocket boosters, Rocketdyne is developing the main engine, with Boeing developing the upper stage and avionics. Surely you can't expect one company to design and coordinate every step of the process.

I understand how the system works. What is bad is the missallocation of resources, money, capital, labor ect. Does my post not make sense to you? Do you not see how freeing up billions of dollars and allowing workers and capital to function in a free market instead of a government entity that cannot fail and neither profits or loses based on its discoveries would work?

[MozeR]

Originally Posted by CRiTiCAL

What is bad is the missallocation of resources, money, capital, labor ect. Does my post not make sense to you?

Do you have any proof for this? That NASA is misallocating resources? Or are you just reading from a textbook?

You're operating under the assumptions that NASA doesn't know what they're doing and that a private company would be able to design and put together every piece of a space mission. These are two assumptions you can not make.

[CRiTiCAL]

Originally Posted by MozeR

Do you have any proof for this? That NASA is misallocating resources? Or are you just reading from a textbook?

You're operating under the assumptions that NASA doesn't know what they're doing and that a private company would be able to design and put together every piece of a space mission. These are two assumptions you can not make.

I think you don't understand what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying that a private company would build a space ship, or could do it better. The government cannot allocate resources because it has none. It can only take from the private sector. Thus missallocating resources from their most productive uses.

NASA's budget was 17 billion dollars last year. Tell me what they invested or did or created? Any other company would have incentive to actually create or innovate something, or they'd go out of business.

Everything NASA uses (employees, capital, resources) it takes from the free market). I say set them free.

[MozeR]

Originally Posted by CRiTiCAL

NASA's budget was 17 billion dollars last year. Tell me what they invested or did or created? Any other company would have incentive to actually create or innovate something, or they'd go out of business.

This isn't Avatar. There's no profit in space. If profit was the only incentive there would be no public nor any private space program.

[CRiTiCAL]

Originally Posted by MozeR

This isn't Avatar. There's no profit in space. If profit was the only incentive there would be no public nor any private space program.

Are you saying that space, with its virtually limitless facets, doesn't offer an opportunity for profit, research or technological development?



Oh, and you can go book your trip on Virgin Galactic right now.

http://www.virgingalactic.com/